mad4svu
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Post by mad4svu on Aug 1, 2008 9:10:06 GMT -5
There's no thread dedicated to them!
Well I ship for Elliot and Kathy. I think it gives the show a good balance between the detectives- you have a widower Captain, muliple divorced Sgt., once-divorced father, a single woman, and a married father. It just gives a good balance for me and gives something out there. I'm glad Elliot and Kathy are back together!
I think my favorite Elliot/Kathy episode would have to be Count Down. I do love Annihilated, Paternity, but in Count Down, you have Kathy who knew that Elliot was busy but he did take some time off to be with her and the kids and he was very happy to see them, it was like he needed that break. Kathy was wrong what she said in Burned- Olivia does NOT give him stability- Kathy does.
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Post by Trublu on Aug 2, 2008 10:49:59 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Elliot and Kathy too. I was very disappointed when it was first revealed that E & K were getting a separation, and then a divorce. I thought that was opening the door too much to the E/O shippers, not that they don't deserve their moments, but I thought there were enough of them for a ship that should never happen. If you don't think SVU has jumped the shark yet, it would if E/O were to get together. Also, Olivia is clearly supposed to be with Casey.
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Post by enaka on Nov 4, 2008 16:40:30 GMT -5
There's no thread dedicated to them! Well I ship for Elliot and Kathy. I think it gives the show a good balance between the detectives- you have a widower Captain, muliple divorced Sgt., once-divorced father, a single woman, and a married father. It just gives a good balance for me and gives something out there. I'm glad Elliot and Kathy are back together! I think my favorite Elliot/Kathy episode would have to be Count Down. I do love Annihilated, Paternity, but in Count Down, you have Kathy who knew that Elliot was busy but he did take some time off to be with her and the kids and he was very happy to see them, it was like he needed that break. Kathy was wrong what she said in Burned- Olivia does NOT give him stability- Kathy does. Hey Mad! :waves:
I am part of Elliot-Kathy fan and I say their marriage stays.
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Post by Finaddict on Nov 11, 2008 21:50:23 GMT -5
I can't believe I missed this thread. I always favored E/K. I am somewhat of a "Purist" when it comes to the show. I liked it's original premise. That means E/K is what it should be, IMO ;D
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Post by oowsvu on Nov 11, 2008 23:13:56 GMT -5
i sort of agree patti in that i like the way thing were back in like the first season with them but after that she got be a b! imo
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Post by Finaddict on Nov 12, 2008 22:32:43 GMT -5
i sort of agree patti in that i like the way thing were back in like the first season with them but after that she got be a b! imo I do agree that Kathy became a B! when she left Elliot. She wanted more than he could give while being a detective. She should have realised that. It is a known fact that being a wife of anyone in Law Enforcement is difficult if the wife doesn't realize what that profession entails. If she had wanted someone home every night at 5pm for dinner, she should have married a banker.
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mad4svu
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Post by mad4svu on Dec 6, 2008 22:56:05 GMT -5
I don't know...I mean, when she filed for separation, it blindsided Elliot however I don't think he should've been too surprised or shocked as he was, I wasn't but then again I didn't see it coming because the episode prior to the separation, Home (season 5) Elliot and Kathy looked happy while playing with Dickie. She told him to go check on Jacob Nesbit when he tried to call Elliot before he was murdered by his brother. I think when it comes to kids' cases, she's more accepting because she's a mother who loves her kids and wants to protect them as Elliot. As with female rape victims, well she did seem understanding about it in Popular (season 3) of why Elliot had to pursue the case after hearing about it from her.
I think she left because her husband changed, I don't blame neither of them. She saw someone she knew turn into someone she didn't understand anymore and tried. We never got HER story of why she left. We only heard Elliot's side "she's tired of me being angry all the time" and "the job made me unbearable to live with". I would have prefered to hear why Kathy left, maybe it would've helped her with the viewer's preception on her. We don't KNOW Kathy other then being a wife of Elliot's and mother to five children. We know Elliot and Olivia, as well as the other main characters, better then all the recurring characters on the show. It's rare when little facts surface- like CSU Siper is married or Judge Seligman regularly has poker games with his fellow collegues.
Police marriages aren't easy, I can imagine it. Look at Munch: he has four ex wives. Fin has an ex wife- he told Terry before that he would be undercover but she said that he was just gone. It's similiar to Elliot and Kathy; Elliot rarely goes undercover- when he does, it's far and few in between. The last time he went undercover, he didn't tell Kathy- that's a no no. She deserved to know what's going on with her husband, his plans for the case.
Kathy is one of my favorite characters, she's human and she has her concerns and worries. Also, it gotta not be easy to think that her husband is off with a very attractive female partner who happens to be single. Heck, I would be very worried myself if I was in her shoes!
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 7, 2008 13:23:33 GMT -5
mad4svu, I really enjoyed your post. Just when I think I have Kathy all figure out, your post makes me think twice. Thank you for that.
I also love your sig. ;D
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mad4svu
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Post by mad4svu on Dec 7, 2008 14:39:34 GMT -5
I gotta keep you guys in check here! Let's face it, there's not many of "us" around and we need to be strong here.
Kathy has had a tough year herself and was probably at her breaking point in Wildlife. For a year her husband was seriously injured and was temporary blind and was shot twice, her daughter was diagnosed with Bipolar after nearly overdosing, her son practically witness a double murder (I do think Dick Finlay killed Anton to keep quiet about his involvement of killing Vince, to cover his own tracks of killing Marga the female lesbian astronaunt), she was in a car accident with Olivia which resulted her son's unexpecting birth, Eli also had colic, and her other daughter's young picture was on a pedophile site. Overall the poor woman! She was at her wit's end and when Elliot didn't notify her for being undercover, I would suppose she thought that he didn't care about the circumstances. I don't think at all Elliot meant to do that, it did go down pretty quickly and we all know how Elliot is when he wants to solve the case once and for all- as Fin as stated, he's a bulldog, self-centered bastard. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Elliot, but there's been plenty of times of when and where I wanted to slap him myself as Kathy has done in Swing. She doesn't let Elliot bulldozer over her, she stands up for herself. But when Olivia gave him her cellphone to have to keep tabs with Cragen, Elliot wanted Kathy to know that he had Olivia's cell phone, and of course, at the end scene when he wanted to be with Eli and let Kathy rest. Although he shouldn't have done that and rested instead himself, but I'm suspecting that he wanted to prove to her that he's there and committed to their family as well as father's love for Eli is more stronger then the pain in his chest and arm.
And thank you Finaddict for the siggy compliment ;D
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 8, 2008 22:46:33 GMT -5
Being an E/K shipper is a lonely business. Many people watch for E/O. This board has always been dedicated to all points of view. In the future can you post any links to other SVU sites in the thread for them. As a rule we don't promote other sites in our regular threads. I will post the link to the thread: specialvictims.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=related
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Post by enaka on Dec 11, 2008 0:19:02 GMT -5
Being an E/K shipper is a lonely business. Many people watch for E/O. This board has always been dedicated to all points of view. In the future can you post any links to other SVU sites in the thread for them. As a rule we don't promote other sites in our regular threads. I will post the link to the thread: specialvictims.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=relatedThank you for the explanation.
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 11, 2008 21:38:36 GMT -5
Your welcome. ;D
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mad4svu
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Post by mad4svu on Dec 15, 2008 4:22:53 GMT -5
So, does anybody have their favorite Kathy appearance episode?
I really love all that she's been in however I would have to say that my top favorite will have to be Count Down. Kathy bringing the twins to see their dad on their birthday and then Elliot sending them to "Uncle" Munchie for treats so he can be with Kathy alone before they come back again with a bad pudding. Just that little scene is so cute and memorable- it features a very sweet side of Elliot with his kids and wife.
My other favorite moment that Kathy does NOT appear in but it is an EK moment was in Scourge, also in season 2 where Kathy called him and he said that he was happy to hear her voice.
As anyone notice the different way he talks to both Olivia and Kathy? Listen very carefully at the volume of his voice. With Olivia it's like a normal speaking voice and with Kathy, especially when they are alone, Elliot's voice is more lower, kinda like, I dunno, Barry White? It's quieter, deeper, intimate even.
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Post by oowsvu on Dec 15, 2008 12:47:12 GMT -5
lol mine is one of the first eps when Maureen is 'starving' herself and El comes home to invite Kathy out to dinner and Maureen is like 'you can't make me...' and El says 'who says you're invited' and Kathy laughs at her and walks out!
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 15, 2008 21:54:42 GMT -5
I love every episode that Kathy is in and if I had to pick any favorites, it would be the 2 you guys have already mentioned.
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