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Post by queequeg on Dec 24, 2005 20:28:51 GMT -5
Benson & Stabler/ Meloni & Hargitay are my favorite characters & I think that if they leave I'll stop watching it. I believe no one can replace them.
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Post by munchkin25 on Dec 30, 2005 16:55:28 GMT -5
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 31, 2005 15:26:05 GMT -5
I think everyone brings something to the show. If Elliot and Olivia leave, then they smash the hopes of E/O shippers who want to bring them together and they'll bring out their pitchforks and torches in protest. If Munch and Fin leave, then many angry people (like me) will bring out their pitchforks and torches because those two bring humor to the show, not to mention how cool they are when they work together. You can't get rid of Cragen cause he''s the leader and pulls everyone together despite the madness they cause him. You can't get rid of the ADAs because they kick some serious @$$ in the court room (look at Alex who's living in witness protection! If they killed her, the SVU writers are guaranteed to have a mob at their doorstep)and if you get rid of the ADA assigned to the unit, then who's gonna prosecute the cases? And if you get rid of Huang, then SVU loses their gaining the upper hand in serial cases, because you don't have a FBI forensics psychologist to make a profile. And if you get rid of Warner, who's going to tell the detectives that the shooting was post-mortem or pre-mortem? There, I think I got everyone covered. ;D You covered the characters and their contributions well. I believe this is what makes this show such an amazing success. They all play off each other well. I dont think the show could survive without this continuity. The Mother Ship Law and Order survived cast change after cast change and remained strong, but I dont think SVU could survive that. While I am more interested in the cases than the dectectives personal lives, I believe what we do know about these characters and how they react to the cases is what keeps this show so strong.
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Post by keepnadsgirl on Dec 31, 2005 16:20:00 GMT -5
i agree, plb47, the way that the charecters react to the cases is basically the only thing that sets it apart from the original Law and Order, except that they deal with different kinda cases, but anyways, without the reaction and drama that the characters give, this is definitly more about the charecters than the cases , in my opinion.
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Post by Finaddict on Dec 31, 2005 16:53:51 GMT -5
i agree, plb47, the way that the charecters react to the cases is basically the only thing that sets it apart from the original Law and Order, except that they deal with different kinda cases, but anyways, without the reaction and drama that the characters give, this is definitly more about the charecters than the cases , in my opinion. It is most likely a combination of the 2..characters and their cases. This show is dear to my heart because its an accurate portrayl of what happens in the investigation of a sex crime upto and including the trial. I for years was a foster parent who took in sexually abused children and with the social workers prepared these children to face life without the parents who abused them. I worked closely with the D.A. to get children ready to testify in court if necessary. The realism of this show is unbelievable. I am impressed that so many of you on this board are so young and chose to watch this show rather than some youth oriented program with out a real message. Happy New Year!!
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Post by munchkin25 on Dec 31, 2005 23:40:47 GMT -5
Thanks! As for the characters, a case has affected them sometime. Take Munch and Amy Solway and right to take our own lives, or Olivia and the girl who killed her drunken mother, Fin and him trying to accept the fact his son was gay, and Elliot and his faith being questioned a number of times. Every now and then, they're going to get a case that will hit pretty close to home. It's like a risk they're taking everyday because they know it will happen, but they keep doing their jobs because someone has to do it, that they have the courage to keep going even when times get rough. They keep going and they never stop until justice is served. And I think that's the main reason I watch this show (second reason is Munch and Fin ) because I admire them for doing that. That they keep going and they'll never quit as long as they see justice is served to the victim.
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Post by Trublu on Jan 1, 2006 13:20:24 GMT -5
I totally agree with both of you. It goes on a case to case basis on this show. Some cases will strike close to Elliot, some to Olivia, and Munch and Fin respectively. That's what makes it so interesting; the writers are very successful *usually* at integrating the character's personal lives with the cases, and making it realistic and believeable.
*And plb47, kudos on your foster parenting. Its always nice to hear about someone who does something for the victims.*
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Post by munchkin25 on Jan 1, 2006 13:26:11 GMT -5
I heard that Chris was signed through season 8 and as soon as he leaves Mariska will leave and vice versa Where did you hear this at?
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Post by Finaddict on Jan 1, 2006 13:31:17 GMT -5
Thanks! As for the characters, a case has affected them sometime. Take Munch and Amy Solway and right to take our own lives, or Olivia and the girl who killed her drunken mother, Fin and him trying to accept the fact his son was gay, and Elliot and his faith being questioned a number of times. Every now and then, they're going to get a case that will hit pretty close to home. It's like a risk they're taking everyday because they know it will happen, but they keep doing their jobs because someone has to do it, that they have the courage to keep going even when times get rough. They keep going and they never stop until justice is served. And I think that's the main reason I watch this show (second reason is Munch and Fin ) because I admire them for doing that. That they keep going and they'll never quit as long as they see justice is served to the victim. Yes the detectives do let the cases affect them at times as any of us would if we had that job. . I especially remember the case of the young woman with the finger of her murdered sister in her purse and Fin's attachment to her as he tries to bring the girls mother to justice . One of the best episodes ever in my opinion. I also like Fin and Munch. I loved Munch on Homicide(life on the street) in the 90's and New Jack City with Ice-T is one of my all time favorite movies..I think we both agree that if anyone of the 4 detectives were to leave; the shows dynamics would never be the same
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Post by Finaddict on Jan 1, 2006 13:44:20 GMT -5
I totally agree with both of you. It goes on a case to case basis on this show. Some cases will strike close to Elliot, some to Olivia, and Munch and Fin respectively. That's what makes it so interesting; the writers are very successful *usually* at integrating the character's personal lives with the cases, and making it realistic and believeable. *And plb47, kudos on your foster parenting. Its always nice to hear about someone who does something for the victims.* Thanks for the compliment. If I have any objections to the show it would be the portrayl of foster parents in a couple of episodes. It was very unflattering to say the least. The experiece of helping young victims of sexual abuse get on with life and helping their perps to get prison time enriched my life and that of my own children who are now in their 30s. It was my daughter who first told me about the show. I agree the writers do an exceptional job of making this show believeable. I have shed many a tear over one episode or another
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Post by queequeg on Jan 1, 2006 15:48:23 GMT -5
I think Fin and Munch have more chemistry in season 7 then Benson and Stabler
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Post by munchkin25 on Jan 1, 2006 17:04:17 GMT -5
I think Fin and Munch have more chemistry in season 7 then Benson and Stabler But they've been showing Benson and Stabler more lately. Why is that?!!! If you have a squad of detectives, then spread the workload evenly. Just don't make it Benson and Stabler all the time with two scenes of Munch and Fin doing erans for the two. A squad works together, as one. If they keep doing that, then it makes it appear that Munch and Fin are lazy and Benson and Stabler are always working so hard. Don't just tell us that they're behind the scenes working, show us for God's sake so we can see it for ourselves! There, I'm done ranting now. ;D
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Post by Finaddict on Jan 2, 2006 7:59:56 GMT -5
I think Fin and Munch have more chemistry in season 7 then Benson and Stabler But they've been showing Benson and Stabler more lately. Why is that?!!! If you have a squad of detectives, then spread the workload evenly. Just don't make it Benson and Stabler all the time with two scenes of Munch and Fin doing erans for the two. A squad works together, as one. If they keep doing that, then it makes it appear that Munch and Fin are lazy and Benson and Stabler are always working so hard. Don't just tell us that they're behind the scenes working, show us for God's sake so we can see it for ourselves! There, I'm done ranting now. ;D go ahead and keep ranting about that subject. I heartily agree. Not enough of Fin and Munch and what we have seen lately is like you say. they are running errands for Benson and or Stabler...
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Post by munchkin25 on Jan 2, 2006 11:40:40 GMT -5
Gladly, plb47! ;D Munch and Fin are not just a pair of errand-running dogs! Give them their day in the spotlight. Show them chasing a perp down Broadway or show them doing an undercover job! Or switch the roles. Let Benson and Stabler do the errands for once and give them only two scenes.
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Post by Finaddict on Jan 5, 2006 18:24:23 GMT -5
Gladly, plb47! ;D Munch and Fin are not just a pair of errand-running dogs! Give them their day in the spotlight. Show them chasing a perp down Broadway or show them doing an undercover job! Or switch the roles. Let Benson and Stabler do the errands for once and give them only two scenes. I agree. They need more airtime . Munch is the reason many watched to begin with. And Ice-T brought in many viewers. I have nothing against Benson and Stabler but lets divide it up some...
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